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Comments on "On The Street..Cardigan Rocker, West Village"
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Girl of Approval said ... (5:38 PM) :
post a commentThe guy looks British.
I'll be awesome if he had a square bag.
He looks like he belongs onstage, right next to Paul Weller, banging out "Eaton Rifles" or "Beat Surrender." He's dreamy. I love the hair, everything.
Couldn't you get the "Will work for food" sign he was holding?
Very Mod!! Was he wearing Beatle boots?
yeah, he looks working class (who isn't) but believe it or not that does not diminish style.
Fashions is about inclusion,some might say. Exclusion is so last century!
he lookds awesome .. he iss so adventurous for a male fashion buff. i like that he is still masculine looking--adn the bag keeps it from being "vintage" he is frinly planed within the neo-mod trend--- where its meshed with goth
What a great, androgynous figure he has: nipped-in waist, balancing those nice wide shoulders. A (male) friend has this figure and is desperately searching for a good male cardie - any suggestions for where I can find one like this?
yup, British. And he needs a different bag.
Kathleen: get your friend onto eBay. Lots of vintage, skinny guys' cardigans there last time I looked.
He looks smart and sleek but Im just so unsure about skinny pants on men - guess only the svelte figure can get away with it and it suits his overall look
i second that cardie request!
ooooh, i don't know...don't think i like it...the hair looks just yuck and the cardigan...I guess I am just not a big fan of cardigans...
Bravo!
Love it all.
Especially the colors of the overall photo:
grey, black, white, and the red of the bag and car behind him.
I say thank goodness it rained.
The moral: in choosing clothes, run with one's body type, however less than "ideal," rather than trying to compensate or conceal.
Here, they guy, tall and skinny, chooses clothes that emphasize long line.....
Totally fab! A great fall preview!
hippity dippity methinks! ~ the bag takes the outfit from the '60s to now.
"he looks working class..."
"maria, I disagree with you. Fashion / art is always about exclusion, about choices and being discriminatory. It dosnt have anything to do with money. If one is lucky and wise, a bigger budget will just bring more of what they are aiming for in 'originals' and better materials.
I think the whole phrase 'working class' is, as you say, 'so last century'.
He's thin! "will work for food!" - did I get it right swagger?
This look is called
"going to drop off drugs at the airport"
-bluddy Ehl
Good lord: it's Paul Weller. This gent is teh uber-cool.
Very The Hives...
Skinny tie...skinny guy...
He looks awesome, I don't understand the 'skinny pants' comment .... those pants are not skinny! Regarding cardigans, you can't beat Prada cardigans ... They always stick to the same style & usually just change the colours each season ... The European Prada stores always have more cardigan options than the N.Y stores for some reason ...
This guy obviously spends time cultivating his look. He has a definite sense of how he wants to be viewed by the public and is using fashion to make a statement about his taste in music and his cultural outlook.
I think it is so fortunate that skinny boys are considered sexy these days. It is so nice that men don't necesarily have to buy into the pressure of being uber-fit or muscular. Being a 90lb-weakling can actually be hot. I, for one, can definitely dig the skinny rocker boy look.
Anonymous: "Fashion / art is always about exclusion, about choices and being discriminatory."
-why?
about "working class": I used the term because it was implied in the "Will work for food" comment,
-context, reference in same anacronic language than original comment-
Anonymous said...
"he looks working class..."
"maria, I disagree with you. Fashion / art is always about exclusion, about choices and being discriminatory. It dosnt have anything to do with money. If one is lucky and wise, a bigger budget will just bring more of what they are aiming for in 'originals' and better materials.
I think the whole phrase 'working class' is, as you say, 'so last century'.
He's thin! "will work for food!" - did I get it right swagger?
12:45 AM
This had nothing to do with fashion, but I think it's extremely ignorant to say that the term 'working class' doesn't have a function in 2006. There are still people who don't decide when to take their lunch break, and who aren't in control of what they (and others) do at work. The word working class doesn't just mean someone who works in a dirty factory!pt
"art is always about exclusion".
I respectfully disagree. How can communicating a message can be about exclusion?
Art is about boundaries not necessarily about taking power out of people. Art liberates, not oppresses.
The making choices part of you argument plays in ideas of freedom.
How can it be exclusion?
Now,to call thinks in marxist terms does not make the person a marxist.
come on guys it's just fashion .all this talk about class and money is a little sickening. i'm sure you can go into H&M and get this look or prada or tiger of sweden. does it really matter. i think some of us on this site needs to get over themselves.
I like the offand touch of the red duffle gym bag. If he was carrying a square DJ bag or Hermes, it would have looked too coordinated.
Also, with the red popping out in that gray, drizzly afternoon, the photo looks a bit Antonioni. Bravo! Hope this shot makes it to the Saks window display.
Everything is perfect...except the bag. Should´ve been a leather breafcase instead or a vintage square shoulderbag.
I consider myself a bit of a mod. And I could see myself wearing the cardigan, shirt, tie and pants, but not the boots and the haircut. A very good combination altogether though. I think it's a bit unfair to call him a rocker. He's clearly a mod. It's good to see the mod look hasn't died. Long live style, long live the mod look.
it's brilliant. check out Hermes' aw 06-07 collection and you'll see they channel a neater version of the same outfit. this guy's interpretation is pretty chic.
He would look better if he did something to his hair...
Love it, love it all - the hair, the outfit, the boots, the scenery, love it, love it, love it!
Maria: 'What does style and art have to do with exclusion about being discriminatory?"
Why?...
Well, why don't you think about what you are 'Not' choosing to wear next time you put your outfit together. Or who you are not choosing to look at on the street.
Do we pretend that creativity has to do only with accepting all? It simply doesn't!
We like to be free and 'hippy love joy' about creation - as it should be, but the bottom line is, every creative process gets to the phase of editing, of choice and of self criticism and exclusion of elements and ideas.
Thats what separates an artist/designer, well, from a Waldorf kindergarden teacher.
About the "Classes": that is maybe for another forum. maybe we should refine our argument..
Fashion is on itself a reference to the individual in a cultural context. To ignore the effects of economic squemes into the culture and how this affects sartorial manifestations is to miss the real expression of the individual within a given culture.
You can feel attracted to the surface of fashion, but make no mistake, the social implications of fashion are profound even if people avoid to talk about it. It would be ideal to value its progresive side rather that using it to mantains status quo, but both situations are a fact.
The mod phenomena was a reaction to the post-industrial and multicultural atmosphere in London, where the so called "working classes" and foreign influences from the ex-colonies melt, allowing a young international style to be in fashion.
4chair: You are assuming that people make judgments the way you do. Maybe it easier for some to determine a sense of fashion identity by excluding than including. Maybe that is the option you talk about. There is a treaty of culture differentiation as an act of war, so I understand what you say. But I want to believe that fashion emancipation provides flux in a more pacific way.
" To ignore the effects of economic squemes into the culture and how this affects sartorial manifestations is to miss the real expression of the individual within a given culture. "
Yes, and with the limitation of budget comes more creation. Limitation/creation, limitation creation .."born from necessity' don't they say?
Take the grunge rockers using flannel shirts because that's what they could afford (and they were warm in Seattle) and it took on an attitude of "yea whatever, we'll wear lumber jack shirts....gotta problem?"
On economics and cultural context ; you are preaching to the choir- I just didn't want to get stranded in a dialogue on Marxism or some such so I aborted...
anyway, I am just a lowly waiter with all second hand self altered clothes ... But my 31 Flavors uniform is a hit at big parties. Sometimes I just don't have time to change!
I like the mod-ish mood of this, but the hair I cannot entirely condone....oh well, to each his own.
Speaking of mod-ish: my father came to the States from India in the sixties. He was a little bit of a dandy back in Pilani, Rajasthan and had suits tailored for him. Really tight-fitting, narrow lapelled jackets and straight pants with creases like knives. Made from the shiniest material. Perfect for riding motor-bike/scooters. Years ago we got rid of them, but I wish we had saved them. They were a hoot!
i want to dye my hair his colour..it looks superwick.
i'm not really a fan of this. is he accentuating his waist?
I dress like this guy sometimes, but his hair ruins the look in my opinion.
Because he is walking on the photo, his body seems to have weird proportion. Those legs look awful small.
The red bag is interesting, because it doesn't fit. And it is, as you might have noticed, Fred Perry x Comme des Garcons Shirt - not an expensive bag, but he might not get it at every "normal" store. Or maybe he is just having a "bad bag day":-)
Hate it. The sweater and the fitted pants make his shoulders look giagantic, which in turns makes the rest of his body look disporportionate.
And I hate the hair. What is with everyone loving the andro look?