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Monday, December 17, 2007

Little help!....Lidfort, Vass, Solid-Toe Shoe trees


I love Lidfort shoes, I have several pair but Barney's makes it....let's say, challenging to want to buy them there.

Does anyone know anywhere else in the US or Milan or Paris or online to buy Lidfort?


I also love my two pair of Vass shoes. Some of their styles are a bit clunky but some are perfectly chic and sleek.
I know Bergdorf use to carry Vass but where can I still buy them in the US?


Just about the only "must have" item for a true Sartorialist is a good set of shoes trees for ALL of their shoes.

Women, wondering what to get your guy for the holidays - shoe trees!!
It is the kind of thing that is not fun to buy for yourself but as a "Secret Santa" or "stocking stuffer" they are great

Does anyone have a recommendation for a good online source for quality shoe trees?

Maybe it is just me but I hate split toe shoes trees, they just look and feel cheap.

I have had the solid-toe (above) shoe tree for years and it really does the trick.

Would you rather have a closet full of wooden hangers or top quality wood shoe trees?

For me, the answer is shoe trees

Comments on "Little help!....Lidfort, Vass, Solid-Toe Shoe trees"

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (9:51 AM) : 

funny, i moved to NY a couple of months ago so i don't know my way around yet that well. on my "to do" list for today it says "buy shoe trees" (didn't even know that's what you call them in english!). no idea where to find them though..so please comment!
thanks.

 

Blogger Pär said ... (9:56 AM) : 

www.Bexley.com -the best value shoe trees on the market...

 

Anonymous Marc from Singapore said ... (10:12 AM) : 

http://search.stores.ebay.com/Grapevinehill_shoe-tree_W0QQfclZ4QQfsnZGrapevinehillQQftsZ2QQsaselZ2964044QQsofpZ0

 

Anonymous cbuss said ... (10:32 AM) : 

sierra trading post (www.sierratradingpost.com) has some good deals on cedar shoe trees every once in a while. Don't forget to look for their 20% off coupon codes online too.

 

Blogger Trip said ... (10:57 AM) : 

100% agree with you idea of shoe trees as Christmas gifts.

 

Anonymous Christopher said ... (10:58 AM) : 

Barker Black has pretty good shoe trees. It is on Elizabeth st.

 

Blogger Jingoist said ... (11:48 AM) : 

Looks like Vass has a site- here's the contact page... http://www.vass-shoes.com/contact.htm

 

Blogger Laguna Beach Trad said ... (11:57 AM) : 

I hope my girlfriend does not read this blog and is persuaded to buy me shoe trees! The only way I would be satisfied with such a gift is if the shoe trees were INSIDE a pair of Vass, EGs, or Lobbs.

Scott, I agree, solid toe shoe trees are the way to go. I have my bespoke shoemaker make my shoe trees out of legally-acquired Port Orford Cedar that has been allowed to soak in Veuve Clicquot for six months. It is an unorthodox method, I know, but it results in a bouquet of outstanding quality.

 

Anonymous ildiko said ... (11:58 AM) : 

http://www.vass-shoes.com/contact.htm

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (12:06 PM) : 

this isn't very helpful in your search, but I've missed posts like this. I love reading about all the details in menswear. Perhaps I'll go buy some shoe trees too!

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (12:25 PM) : 

I vote for shoe trees over the wood hangers. For femmes - esp. boot trees - these extend life for year over year - nice crisp shape always. It's a beautiful thing.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (12:41 PM) : 

You can get very decent shoe trees online on edmeier.de (which doesn't really make sense when living in the states though), and of course in their beautiful shop you got to know during your time in Munich.

 

Anonymous Josh said ... (12:43 PM) : 

Rochester Shoe Tree Company's are great. Sart - i'm with you... there's little sense in investing in a good pair of shoes if you don't have shoe trees to go with them.

http://www.onecedarlane.com/detail.php?id=105&catid=2&sort=

 

Anonymous Scottg said ... (1:44 PM) : 

VASS shoes are available through Sky Valet, 1800 Wisconsin Ave., NW Washington, DC 20007 202-337-4333website www.skyvalet1.com. Small shoe store in Georgetown run by two brothers. Only source for Edward Green shoes in the DC area.

 

Anonymous David said ... (1:51 PM) : 

I bought a handful of IKEA shoe trees. Inexpensive and plastic, as you might expect, but they seem to do the job. Must shoe trees be cedar or made of wood?

 

Anonymous Ultraviolet said ... (2:33 PM) : 

As Pär as said, Bexley's shoe trees are the best. You can find it there : http://www.bexley.com/Bexley/index.aspx?site=BEXLEY&lang=EN§ion=ACCPRD&page=Embauchoirs&blocReferrer=12141

 

Blogger Peggy said ... (2:53 PM) : 

Barneys is difficult for me also. I love the cosmetic line "By Terry" which they carry exclusively in New York but I certainly would prefer going elsewhere. My husband's shoe trees from Brooks Brothers are old but great and not the split style shown on the Brooks Brothers website.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (2:54 PM) : 

Scott,

I thought we were going to start seeing regular self-portraits of you in your wardrobe?

Don't get me wrong, I like the shoe pictures...

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (3:06 PM) : 

You don't really need more than one or two pair because you only need to use them after a shoe has been worn. They can be removed the next night and used for the pair of shoes you are wearing that day.

 

Anonymous Paris said ... (3:12 PM) : 

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Anonymous Anonymous said ... (3:13 PM) : 

vass are not the premier lige. look for lazlo vass. same family name, but better. the clunky are the traditional "budapester" so called in K&K monarchie in austria and hungaria.
http://www.budapester-schuhe.de/dinkelacker/1357b3165e9d9d7172d2aa6085b71a23,1,0,0,0,0.html
http://www.budapester-schuhe.de/laszlo_vass/index.php

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (3:42 PM) : 

You have already been, where to find the best shoe trees. Remember the coloured brushes, Germany, Munich. At Eduard Meier they have several models of shoe trees in different width and without split toes. They have a good online shop, that I think will deliver worldwide, for special recuests you will sure be welcome to contact them, with the best regards...

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (3:47 PM) : 

At Eduard Meier, Munich, you will find several shoe tree models in different width and without splittoes. You may contact them with your special request, I think their online shop (www.edmeier.de) will deliver worldwide...

 

Anonymous hockers said ... (3:49 PM) : 

it's worth noting that shoe trees must not be varnished - if they are, the moisture will not be drawn from the leather after wear

 

Blogger tintin said ... (4:03 PM) : 

In my humble opinion, you're crazy to put any tree other than the makers in your shoes. They're gonna fit better than anything else. In fact they'll be close to the last of the shoe. And it looks better to have different trees with different branding. I want a pair of Cleverley bespokes for the trees alone. Lastly, Lobb and Cleverly are going between $3-4,000a pair. Not bad when you consider a bespoke suit off Savile Row is going for $7-10,000 (with the current exchange rate). You'll never get too fat to wear your bespoke shoes and unless I'm way off here, you'll never leave them somewhere like I do gloves and coats and scarfs and Hermes ties (okay, it was a strip joint and she took my tie). Shoes are a steal for what they are and how they're made. Use the makers trees and they'll last for Donkey years. And as everything gets more digital you'll have a piece of art made from leather and wood. You're children will fight over them at your funeral. That's a comforting thought.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:03 PM) : 

Last year, I went to a home goods store to buy all matching plastic hangers, and ended up buying almost 100 wooden hangers. It cost me a lot, but it was worth it because it makes my clothes look better, hang better and cleans up my ordinary closet so well.

 

Blogger tintin said ... (4:19 PM) : 

Par,
Marinella Bexley? They're 70 euros a pair. That's a crime.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:25 PM) : 

Cancel my previous post about Giorgio...he wrote & says he no longer carries them :(

 

Blogger tintin said ... (4:48 PM) : 

The shipping on Bexleys will kill you so you need to order a lot to make it worthwhile. At least 5 pr. And if you're gonna spend that much why not go to the maker and buy a pr of shoe trees from them. My Lobb shoe trees were a hundred bucks but man do they look good.

 

Anonymous Joel said ... (5:04 PM) : 

www.shipton.fr and then ask Matthew for the cedar shoe trees. They smell great and are top quality. Good luck!

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:10 PM) : 

A tad bit out of topic, but why dont you post men pics as often as you used to?

 

Blogger Andy, Drew & Andrew said ... (5:17 PM) : 

the best thing about those, other than their sole purpose, is the rich smell they leave.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:24 PM) : 

Brooks Brothers has good cedar shoe trees (they are split-toed!)

 

Anonymous Steve said ... (5:50 PM) : 

Google yields this:

Wayne Edwards (1525 Locust St., 215.731.0120) in Philadelphia

"Wayne Edwards is also one of only two stores in the nation to carry handmade shoes from Gravati, Pirelli and Lidfort."

I have no idea if this is true - I'm just passing it along -

 

Blogger The Sartorialist said ... (5:50 PM) : 

tintin
good thought but you know that many good shoes do not come with shoes trees

 

Blogger Barbara said ... (7:07 PM) : 

My boyfriend needs some shoes like these.

 

Blogger positively the same dame said ... (7:20 PM) : 

sart--

the last time i checked you could still buy lidfort at wayne edwards in philadelphia. they have a website coming, but it is not yet ready for primetime.

http://www.wayne-edwards.com/

i actually managed to snag a pair for myself on yoox, which was quite a thrill. take that, barney's.

 

Blogger The Urban Naturalist said ... (10:29 PM) : 

Wonderful shoes!!

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:28 PM) : 

Hello? AllenEdmonds shoe trees. End of subject.

 

Anonymous Idaho said ... (3:00 AM) : 

woodlore (yes, allen-edmonds) does a nice quality shoe tree, and they have plenty of options and are very affordable.

 

Blogger Diana said ... (3:33 AM) : 

Dear Sart,

Vass Shoes are originally hungarian, and perhaps you could get them cheaper, if you get in touch with the hungarian manufactura. Here are the contact data.

Vass Shoes:
Haris köz 2., H-1052 Budapest, Hungary
Phone / fax: +36-1 318-2375
email: info@vass-cipo.hu
www.vass-cipo.hu
www.vass-shoes.hu

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (3:48 AM) : 

Woodlore.com has great shoe trees, regardless of your preference in design.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (4:11 AM) : 

Cole Haan has cedar shoe trees - split toe

 

Anonymous Eleley said ... (4:39 AM) : 

Perfect product and unbeatable price!
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=3+pairs+Rochester+Red+Cedar+Shoe+Trees+knotty+Large&MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&ebaytag1=ebayreg&srchdesc=n&maxRecordsReturned=300&maxRecordsPerPage=50&SortProperty=MetaEndSort

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:42 AM) : 

Does anyone know about Crocket and Jones from Northampton?

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:43 AM) : 

Hello to everyone, I'm from Menorca - Balearic Islands and here there is a lot of shoes culture. I'll recomend you this family and this always but cute style.

http://www.gomila.es

Regards from the Island.
Laura

 

Anonymous Phaedo said ... (7:41 AM) : 

As far as I can tell, almost all cedar shoe trees (split toe and solid) are made by one company: Woodlore. Even trees sold by shoe manufacturers are simply rebranded Woodlore trees -- so they will not necessarily ft better.

There are a few non-ceder (varnishes beachwood, for instance) trees out there. Do not use these. It's important that the wood be uncoated. The function of the tree is for the xylem in the wood to draw out moisture and kill bacteria, not simply to keep the shoe's shape.

The only cedar trees I know of not made by woodlore are the Bexley ones, mentioned earlier in the replies.

The Woodlore trees are poorly made and I feel they distort my shoes too much. I fear the Bexley ones, however, will be too fat. I have a low instep (flat to of foot), so any fully-formed tree stretches the uppers too much. In this case, one must either sand the tree himself or use an inferior split-toe.

 

Anonymous victime de la mode said ... (8:18 AM) : 

J'suis snob,
J'suis snob,
c'est vraiment l'seul défaut
que j'gobe

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (8:55 AM) : 

In response to your question about trees or hangers, in a heartbeat, wooden shoe trees. I agree with tintin; always purchase shoe trees from the same maker as the shoes themselves - and I would add, at the time of purchase. Original maker's trees will fit the shoes better than any different brand of tree. It's also fun to watch the color of the trees age along with the shoes, too! The trees serve a specific purpose: to gently remove moisture and return the shoe to its original shape and keep them in that shape until they are worn again. Another factor to consider is whether the trees are spring-loaded or not. Many bespoke or other high quality hand crafted shoe trees are merely hinged instead of spring-loaded. The spring loaded type can exhert too much force, possible over stretching the shoe, if they are not of the proper size - a factor that may be more important than if they are solid or split. If one needs shoe trees, a good shoe cobbler should be able to make or modify trees to fit one's shoes. Union Works in Tokyo offers just such a service. The Japanese magazine titled "Last" (published by Esquire Japan) is THE sartorial magazine for shoes. It is work seeking out.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (9:15 AM) : 

Lidfort: www.lidfort.it

Also available in Tokyo at World Footwear Gallery, Jingumae Main Store, Tel. 3-3423-2021
http://www.wfg-net.com/

 

Blogger tintin said ... (9:53 AM) : 

Schu,
Never came a cross good shoes that didn't offer trees. Lidford and Vass have beautiful trees on their web sites. What are you waitin' for? Money well spent in 20 years when the only shoe trees made will be plastic from China. Now get out there and take more pictures of women smoking in Europe.

 

Anonymous tokyosurfer said ... (10:33 AM) : 

lidfort@lidfort.it

you could contact lidfort`s directly and find out if they deal with other retailers in the u.s.

otherwise world footwear gallery ( berlutti, stefano bemer and etc ) in tokyo ginza 81-3-5474-8725 perhaps when you`re in tokyo for a shoot for nippon vouge

 

Anonymous Varvana said ... (10:52 AM) : 

Speaking of the topic, I find it extremely difficult to find good shoe trees for women's shoes. I hate wrinkles in my boots, yet I haven't found an efficient way to combat against them.

If there is even a moderate heel, it is impossible to find shoe trees that can fit the curve of the shoe. I know there are some shoe tree models that support only half of the shoe, lacking the heel part. However, these do not provide enough support to prevent wrinkles.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:42 AM) : 

http://cgi.ebay.com/GENUINE-Allen-Edmonds-Ultra-Shoe-Tree-LARGE-Brass-Knobs_W0QQitemZ370005786969QQihZ024QQcategoryZ63850QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I highly recommend these shoe trees. They look great and do an excellent job. They are split toe, but I prefer this, as they fill out the shoe perfectly.

 

Blogger Deb said ... (12:28 PM) : 

I drive by the Allen Edmond plant everyday on my way to work. It's located in picturesque Port Washington, WI, with a view of Lake Michigan close to the plant. They also have several outlet stores in Wisconsin, Illinois and I think, New York. It used to be locally owned, but was just recently sold. The shoes and shoe trees are made in Wisconsin. The shoes are hand-sewn by ladies, paid by the piece, in Belgium, WI. These things may change under the new ownership, but that is the tradition.

 

Anonymous wurfel said ... (12:35 PM) : 

on a related note, can someone recommend "trees" for boots? i've had the darnedest time finding them. thanks. -wurfel

 

Blogger MISS GLITZY said ... (1:09 PM) : 

Thanks, I improve my english today, I didn't know that you name it shoe trees. By the way, I really like your Litford shoes and I can understand your feeling.

 

Blogger Linnea said ... (2:42 PM) : 

A tip for shoe-trees: whenever you are in Stockholm, there is a old-fashioned store on Nybrogatan where they sell quality shoe-trees, according to my dad.

 

Anonymous momo said ... (3:04 PM) : 

My husband uses the Allen-Edmonds shoe trees and they do a wonderful job at keeping his shoes in shape. They also have the closed toe that you like.

 

Anonymous moemoe said ... (8:46 PM) : 

you think Barney's is "challenging"? I want to buy another pair of Barker Blacks but my experience was so bad at the Elizabeth street store I will not go in there until they get new help. It's a shame because the shoes are great. As for shoes trees, I've bought lots of different kinds but I like Johnston and Murphy best (but have split toe) because heel part is larger than most other brands.

 

Blogger Homo Ono said ... (10:06 PM) : 

To wufel:
Re. Boot Trees
I use these-
http://www.doversaddlery.com/cedar-boot-trees/p/X1-3730/cn/15/
for riding boots but I am not sure if they are what you are looking for because they are very tall (almost to the knee.)

To all:
Re. question about wooden hangers vs. show trees

I think that my closet has the answer. I have all wooden hangers but less than half of my shoes are on trees.

Question:
Doesn't the split toe help the tree form to the shoe? If I don't have the split toe do I have to have the tree fitted to the shoe? Some shoes are wide and rounded- others are narrow, pointed and flat. How will I find solid shoe trees that would fit all of my shoes?

The only trees I have now are ones for the really good shoes and I bought the trees at the same time as the shoes.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (5:07 AM) : 

tintin, your overzealous pretension is grating.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (11:23 AM) : 

Lidfort replied that there are 2 others US stores that carry their shoes & 1 in Milano:

AMC NEW YORK
500 SEVENTH AVENUE
10018 NEW YORK

H LORENZO
8660 SUNSET BOULEVARD
LOS ANGELES

MILANO:
DANTONE
C.SO MATTEOTTI,20 20121 MILANO

They are not currently available in Paris, but they hope to get them there in the future. Cheers!

 

Anonymous shoelover said ... (11:49 AM) : 

to all - worked in the shoe business for many years working with Bench Made English shoes. Solid shoe trees are pretty but not as functional, mostly effective for display purposes. Split toe cedar shoe trees are the best for your shoes b/c they are adjustable to the length and width of your shoe and they really only need to be put in immediatly after you take off your shoes b/c that is when they abosrb moisture and odor, and allow your shoe to return to their original shape after a days wear.

 

Anonymous Green Lantern said ... (1:57 PM) : 

Looks cheap but is functional. The main purpose of a shoe tree is to wick away moisture while re-forming the shoe. The split toe model re-forms the shoe by the sides pressing outward to the shoe vamp. Also, a shoe tree should not be left in till the shoes are worn again in say a weeks time. Leave the tree in till shoe is dry then take out so the shoe can breath. But yes, custom shoe trees are the bomb-diggidy.

 

Anonymous cordelia said ... (2:30 PM) : 

Such beautiful objects, a solid clever wooden machinery - that's why I keep my father's shoes trees even if their size doesn't fit ours. Thank you, Sart!

 

Anonymous McGee said ... (4:08 PM) : 

tintin-

You spent $100 on shoe trees because they "look good?" They look good inside your shoes? That is the most ridiculously pretentious thing I have ever heard. What's next, soaking your shoe trees in Veuve Cliquot for six months because it leaves an outstanding bouquet?

 

Blogger tintin said ... (8:01 PM) : 

Man, I can feel the love. And I soak my shoe trees in Billecart Rose. Proles use Veuve.

 

Anonymous THE BRIT said ... (8:03 PM) : 

SAT...THERE NOW, STEADY ON OLD CHAP!

YOU´VE GONE AND GIVEN MY GIRL FRIEND BRIGHT IDEAS BENEATH HER STATION!!!

YOU´VE JUST DASHED MY HOPES OF A BRAND NEW STEEL AND BLACK DIAL ROYAL OAK OFF-SHORE FOR A SET OF..... EDWARD GREEN SHOE TREES?!! I MEAN, LIKE GOD DAMN!!

I DON´T SUPPOSE YOU´D MAKE A BRIT HAPPY BY DEBUNKING THE CLUNK- OF- WOOD IDEA FOR XMAS?

THE MISSUS SWEARS BY YOUR EVERY WORD MATE AND UNLESS YOU AMMEND, YOU´VE JUST RUINED THE 25th FOR ME!!

REASON WITH ME OLD CHAP....DO THE RIGHT
THING!!

-HOGAN-

 

Blogger Somers said ... (1:14 AM) : 

This store is located in Philadelphia. Though the website is currently under construction, an article about them claims that they carry Lidfort. There's an email listed.

http://www.wayne-edwards.com/

Bonne chance, et bonnes fêtes.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (9:16 AM) : 

My Lidforts come from Barneys too, shoe trees I always get at Bloomies on Lex, about 15$/pair

 

Anonymous tomassocroccante said ... (2:04 AM) : 

I've bought them from Church's, I've bought them at Syms. I have some from LL Bean and some from Hess Benchmaster. They are mostly split - the better to fit into the various toe box shapes and lengths.

Not being a millionaire I prefer to pay about $10 a pair. Bespoke shoe trees? Good for you! But that's not my way of putting money into my shoes ... !

 

Blogger E. Frank said ... (1:27 PM) : 

This is my favorite kind of entry: the insider feature, breaking down the outfits into their components. I'd love to see more. Thanks!

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (8:17 PM) : 

The Bloomingdales in Chevy Chase, Maryland carries Lidfort.... They have some great styles...

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (1:27 PM) : 

not perhaps the most elegant shopping experience, but century 21 has scented cedar shoe trees for $13.

 

Anonymous kp said ... (10:10 PM) : 

vogel in soho (howard st.) carries shoes trees. and they make some amazing bespoke shoes & boots. check it out!

 

Anonymous Duncan said ... (11:58 AM) : 

Unless your shoes are bespoke, and the trees are too, you are wasting your money buying tree shoes.

Why?

Shoes are made on lasts, wooden approximations, or models of a mean / average foot.

When we wear shoes they take the shape of our feet (some refer to this as 'wearing or breaking' the shoe in). Placing generic shoes trees into the shoes simply returns it to generic shape.

I have been given this advice by numerous Northampton craftsman (Trickers, Church's, Grenson, and Lobb). They all swear by simple newspaper. Not as pretty, I know, but there you go.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (8:12 AM) : 

Wearable Shoe Trees http://www.wearableshoetrees.com/ offers Shoe and Boot trees for keeping your shoes in shape and Shoe Stretchers for easing those tight spots.Check out http://www.wearableshoetrees.com/

 

Anonymous Shoe_Tree_Hugger said ... (10:04 AM) : 

I tend to agree with Duncan regarding using newspaper to help wick out moisture and shape the shoe. Shoe trees (particularly the spring loaded ones) tend to stretch out the leather upper. You have two ends of the spectrum: Newspaper, $0.50 or Lobb shoe trees, $100-$150. Most of us will probably end up somewhere in the middle (Nordstrom, $19.99). Another thing worth noting is that you don't need several pairs of shoe trees. You just need one pair to place in your shoes that have been worn throughout the day, and only for a few hours.

 

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